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Friday, December 5, 2008

Does the Bible Command Rape?

Some myths are so difficult to kill that one begins to wonder whether there is a wooden stake or silver bullet out there somewhere.

I constantly run across and am confronted by atheists who make the statement that in the Bible God commands rape.

By now, it is like some sort of nightmarish game. I tell them that this is nothing but an atheist myth and wait to see what they do next.

Inevitably they do take one of the following steps:
1) They disappear, being contented with taking a jab while not wanting to actually engage in reasonable discourse.
2) They merely repeat the assertion.
3) They make generic allusions to what they think they recall that the Bible stated.
4) They paraphrase the Bible.
5) They attempt to recall what interpretation of the Bible was promulgated by a celebrity atheist activist, an interpretation that they consider infallible and believe on faith.
6) They quote a partial verse, one verse or even a couple.
7) Inevitably, regardless of which of the above action they take, they consider themselves triumphant.

One interesting counter tactic is to ask how or why they condemn rape as being immoral Dan Barker does not believe that it is absolutely immoral and Sam Harris believes that rape played a very beneficial evolutionary role (see here and here. Richard Dawkins has also made some interesting comments about rape). Indeed, how do they condemn the actions of the ancient Middle East since they believe that morality is evolving? How then could they condemn the actions of those with less evolved morality?

Two of their favored pull-quotes, if they are even informed enough to be able to reference any text, are:
“As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves” (Deuteronomy 20:14).

“keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately” (Numbers 31:18).

Let me state that as disturbing as the atheists find the cherry-picked-Bible-pull-quotes, I find it very disturbing that they read these texts and infer rape.

They are inventing the idea of rape and reading it into the text (this is eisegesis and is hermeneutically inappropriate).

Let us consider the facts of the matter:
To begin with, we may note Deuteronomy 20:10 states, “When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace.”

Assuming that war ensues, once it is over they were to “remain outside the camp seven days; whoever has killed any person, and whoever has touched any slain, purify yourselves and your captives on the third day and on the seventh day. Purify every garment, everything made of leather, everything woven of goats’ hair, and everything made of wood” (Numbers 31:19-20).
This ensures the health of soldier and war captives.

In the case of the women mentioned in the texts noted above, if a man was interested in one of them he was to:
Provide her with housing.

Allow her one month to mourn.

Then they may get married.

And if they later divorce, she was to go free and not be mistreated (see Deuteronomy 21:10-14).

No rape at all anywhere. Rather, cleansing after a war, the provision of a home, time to mourn, marriage and if need be, freedom and protection from mistreatment.

Of course, these facts will very likely be completely ignored and followed by various complaints about God commanding war and killing children and cattle, etc., etc., etc.

Sadly, very much prompted by the New Atheist sect of atheism many atheists are not interested in engaging in skepticism in a reasonable manner but interested in besmirching, take jabs and move on to the next target.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

This article is disgusting. You tried to justify raping action in bible. First, you miss these verses:

Isaiah 13:
15 Whoever is captured will be thrust through;
all who are caught will fall by the sword.

16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives ravished.

Do read you bible.

God stirred up the people to kill babies and rape women. You shamelessly tried to shake off his responsibility by saying "the actions of the ancient Middle East".

By the way, if you seriously think that god is right no matter what he did, why do you feel uncomfortable with the atheist attacks? You should be happy about raping commanded by god!!

Mariano said...

Anonymous;
Thanks for your comment.
I do not know if you are an atheist but if you are I can understand why you make an argument from outrage: because you have no basis upon which to condemn any actions whatsoever except your impotent personal preferences.

You have provided further reinforcement to my point that atheist presuppose rape where none is in view—please justify your view by quotations in context and not mere assertions of atheist mythology.

You are confusing prescription with description—Isaiah 13 describes what the Medes will do to the Babylonians.
aDios,
Mariano

Anonymous said...

Mariano. I love you. May God continually sustain you.

Anonymous said...

I understand that you are trying to defend your God. Although he is in fact talking about judgement of Babylon, He makes it more than clear that HE IS the one who will orchestrate this day of wrath. Many times he says I WILL in the passage...

Mariano said...

Even so, God is describing what people will choose to do.
Please be aware that this blog is no longer being posted to and that a fuller consideration of rape and the Bible has been posted at this link to Atheism is Dead.

aDios,
Mariano

Mariano said...

Pardon, I provided a generic link to Atheism is Dead, the post in question is at this link.

Anonymous said...

It's extremely silly to try and justify verses in the Bible that show that men were to "allow women to mourn", etc., without any mention of the woman's point of view. No wonder the woman is described as "booty". It's as if you miss the entire misogynistic point of the bronze-age writers who lived in a primitive time.

It is no wonder you don't understand Dawkins or Hitchens.

Anonymous said...

Both of your views are flawed. While it is true that, under atheism, morality is useless(for we humans are lower than the fecal matter of god...if he were to produce it , anyway) god himself is equally low when compared to DOROS. Without DOROS, king of Bilthem and creator of god, it would be impossible for god's virtue to hold any substance.
Without DOROS, genocide/infanticide/slavery would always be acceptable(as opposed to only sometimes being acceptable)

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